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EXCLUSIVE — Sen. Heinrich on UFOs: "instead of just being a cultural issue, it's beginning to be a data issue"
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EXCLUSIVE — Sen. Heinrich on UFOs: "instead of just being a cultural issue, it's beginning to be a data issue"

Ep. 159 — Sen. Martin Heinrich (1-11-2024)
US Capitol Thursday, Jan. 11, 2024. Photo: Matt Laslo

Earlier today Ask a Pol broke news to Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) about the House UAP Caucus.

“They have a caucus?” Heinrich asked before we joined him for a quick ride on the tram running underneath the US Capitol.

Heinrich’s the third most senior Democrat on the US Senate Intelligence Committee.

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Heinrich'’s also an original sponsor of Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s UAP amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which became the bulk of our brief interview and another subject we broke news to him on.

“That’s very interesting,” Heinrich replies upon hearing our reporting that the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT), repeatedly told us he hadn’t discussed UAPs with House Intel. Chair Mike Turner throughout the fall.

As much disappointment as there’s been with newly-retired AARO (All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office) Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, Heinrich says he senses change is afoot in Washington.

“I do credit him for, like, creating a situation where instead of just being a cultural issue, it's beginning to be a data issue,” Heinrich told us. “That's what we should all have as a goal, irrespective of whether any of these things are actually unexplainable or not. The more you chase the data, more of them will be explainable.”

SORRY FOR ALL THE TYPOS! This is #3 of 6 stories I hope to pump out tonight — and I’m waaaaay behind on all the others but wanted to get it out ASAP before I huddle outside the SCIF early tomorrow am. Get some! Sleep when I die…

LISTEN: Laslo & Sen. Heinrich

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM), slightly edited for clarity.

TRANSCRIPT: Sen. Heinrich (1-11-2024)

Sen. Heinrich is alone, waiting for the tram underneath the Capitol

Matt Laslo: “You look lonely, sir. Happy new year!”

Martin Heinrich: “How are you?”

ML: “Tomorrow the House UAP Caucus is…”

MH: “They have a caucus?”

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